A Mother's Journey Through Grief: Caring for a Son Before and After His Death

Sue Sullivan cared for her son, Dermot, who had a severe neurological condition, until his death at 19 in December 2025. Heather Gale's husband, Chris, has a rare, progressive disease that is causing him to "fade in pieces" over time. Both women share their experiences with Anderson Cooper, discussing the profound loneliness of caregiving and the concept of "constant grief" that begins long before a loved one passes away. The conversation delves into the emotional complexities of anticipating loss while providing daily care. Sullivan and Gale describe the isolation that often accompanies caregiving, as well as the societal expectations that can make it difficult to express their feelings. They also talk about how grief evolves over time and the ways they have found meaning and support. This segment is part of the podcast "All There Is with Anderson Cooper," which explores grief and loss. For more stories and resources, visit cnn.com/allthereis. The episode offers a raw and honest look at the challenges of caregiving and the enduring impact of love and loss.